Throttle problems ....

[sobsidian]

I am having very similar issues. Expect I cannot get this to work at all. I have looked through the forum and found nothing to resolve my issue.

Problem: Whenever I load GFD my throttle fails to work properly. When I move the throttle forward, the throttles come back to idle every change in the throttle. After I am done moving the throttle, thr 1 will remain in place, but thr 2 will return to idle. Both throttle levers return to idle as I move the saitek throttle.

Remediation steps: I have disabled the axis in FSX, and assigned the axis in FSUIPC as described in the GFD documentation. I have tried both "Send directly to FSUIPC" and "Send normally to FS", neither option works. As soon as I close down GFD, the throttle then works fine again.  I have disabled all the saitek software to make sure none of that was interferring, and still no luck.

Background: I have a saitek x52 pro throttle/joystick. I am only using the GFD at the moment, but have a OC MCP and CDU on the way. All the software is running on the same PC. I have a registered version of FSUIPC (4.6)

Please help.

[dvincent]

Hi,

I use a Saitek Yoke / Throttle and it is working properly so there must be something you're overseeing in your setup.
Be sure to use the very newest version of FSUIPC because there is a known throttle issue with the preceeding version of FSUIPC. Take a look on Pete's webpage to check the latest version number.
The OC MCP + Efis and CDU are working fine as I use them too.
However, I can't recommend to use the software completely on 1 pc

[Bobbo]

Hello Sobsidian
As far as I can see, you have the same behavior as me. Today my Th works very nice! In my aircraft before I load the core app or the MCP app, the screen throttles on the ac moves up and down, like my own. As soon as I load some of the above mentioned app the screen throttles on the ac is not working at all.....!! But.... when I start the ac, my throttles works perfect on the engine. Seen on the EICAS.

So what I am trying to say is that the function of the throttles is not similar to the function of the screen throttles! Hope you understand me now.

Try to start your aircraft (with GFD or Core loaded) and test your throttles.

[dvincent]

Hello Bobbo and Sobsidian,

there is a simple explanation for what Bobbo described. The movements of the throttle in FS are not real movements, what you see in FS are series of subsequent JPG's showing different throttle positions. There are no exact throttle-JPG's for each trust setting, that results in a weird behavior of the throttle in FS.
Example: if there are throttle-JPG's for trust setting 1 and 2 and you or the AP apply 1.5 trust setting, FS doesn't know what to show and the trustlevers are swapping between 1 and 2.

That's a simplified explanation to make you get the idea of how it works in FS.

(thx Bobbo for your assist)

[sobsidian]

I understand the graphics might be off. However I just tried to re-create the issue. At first, I would throttle up, and like dvincent said, the EFIS started going up, however it then started going back down. The reason being the throttle gets set back to idle. When I run the throttle test application I see the FSUIPC offset values return to zero also. I then discovered that I had the z-axis assigned to the throttle (it came back after I deleted it the last time) ....

HOWEVER... I then deleted all the axis from FS and assigned them in FSUIPC. I now get a slightly weirder problem. While my throttle is idle, so it also is idle in FS. Once I start to increase the throttle, I get the same result as above where the throttle keeps returning to zero (at least it appears so on the TQ in FS). However, once I set my throttle to full, thr #1 in FS on the TQ maintains its full throttle setting (but anything in between is returned to zero). The weird part of that also is the thr #2 return to idle no matter what.

I also double checked my FSUIPC version. I have 4.60a which is the latest release. I have attached screenshots. Any input would be helpful.

Thanks guys!

[dvincent]

Hi,

do you have a REAL reverser zone (beyond idle) on your throttle ?
On my Saitek throttle there is a reverser position but that is not a real reverser on the same throttle axis, it is a button behind the idle position.
I would suggest that you check the checkbox, visible on the second picture you sent. No reverser zone.
(I calibrated the second throttle apart alltough I assigned the same axis as throttle 1 and throttle 2.)

Then try again

[sobsidian]

I tried doing your suggestion without any luck. It is the same issue. The other weird part is that I completely took the throttle out of the equation. I then pressed F4 to go to full throttle, I get the same response where the throttle quad in FS returns to idle immediately. I also then try pressing F2 to increment the throttle and same thing, it immediately returns to zero. As soon as I close down GFD the problem goes away.

To add to my previous posts, when doing using the throttle test app and having GFD loaded, the values in the top row (088C & 0924) keep returing to zero the bottom row (3330 & 3332), the values are as they should be, following the input of the throttle (the middle 2 rows of data do not change).

Now when I close GFD and keep the throttle test window open, both top & bottom rows contain the same value, and the a/c will accelerate accordingly to my throttle input (or keyboard input).

[dvincent]

Hello Sobsidian,

did you configure the mcp.xml properly ?

According to the manual you must adjust the throttlemode in that file.

There is a MCP Configuration tool program available under the program start menu. Start this
program and open the MCP.xml. Fill in all necessary details and save the file.

When you open the mcp.xml file with notepad instead of the configurationtool  it should look like this:
(Example configuration file)

================================
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8" ?>
<Configuration>
 <GFDNetwork>
  <GFDServer>127.0.0.1</GFDServer>
 </GFDNetwork>

 <ThrottleMode>Double</ThrottleMode>
</Configuration>

================================

127.0.0.1 if gfd server is running on the same computer, else replace that with the IP address of the pc running gfd server

Double can be Single, according to your throttle setup.

[sobsidian]

I am not using the MCP application so that should not matter ... correct?

I believe I have solved my problem now. I'm not sure exactly what I did, but I do recall clicking the "normal defaults" button on the about page, then re-doing the procedures. That seems to have solved my problem.

In the end, I also have these settings configured: I have the "no reverse zone" selected in the throttle calibration, and throttle 1 & 2 are seperate settings (by unchecking the map to all 4 on page 1).

[yarbabaev]

Hi Bart, Hi Georg, Hi NAX!
Sory for trouble but I need your help. I must admit I have no enough knowledge.

Here is my configuration:

1. PC1: – GFD GAUGES = (EICAS/upper, captain PFD (for IFDS), MCP, MCP remote, captain 
                                     EFIS, F/O EFIS, Standby RMI, captain CDU, F/O CDU); COM port-
                                     3, Baude Rate-38400, Local Port-8999, Server IP-192.168.22.10.
            - GFD MCP = Local Port-8997
 
2. PC2:  – GFD GAUGES = (captain PFD, captain ND, EICAS/lower);
               gfd.xml changed Local Port-8999, Server IP-192.168.22.10.
 
3. PC3:   – GDF GAUGES = (F/O PFD, F/O ND);
                gfd.xml changed Local Port-8999, Server IP-192.168.22.10.

FS9 and FSUIPS and WideFS set on PC1, WideClient on others.
Are these correct Local Ports? For what does it need MCP Remote? Why I have How should I tune FSUIPS? Should I start second GFD.exe for Engravity CDU work propely?
What do you think about full complete MANUAL on tuning NetWork? As variants for 3 PCs or 5 PCs. But in our deals we forget about main purpose - fly and learn procedures of ICAO!
Thank you.

Best regards
http://www.yarbabaev.narod.ru
Alexey Yarbabaev

[NAX]

Portvice it looks ok.
What CDU do you have? since you mention COM3 for CDU, I belive it's a CPFlight and if so you have to run it via CORE. Basicly, as I've been told, all hardware you assign to a COM port shall and have to run via CORE.
Do you have hardware MCP? tell us witch MCP you have and we take the problem or question about remote MCP from there.

PS: But maybe you should create a new post and leave this one to discussion about throttle config.

[admin]

Nax,

You're saying wrong things .   If the CDU is an engravity CDU it has to be connected to the computer running the CDU (in GFD).  Not to the computer running core.

Alexey,

The ports look correct.  Can you tell me what your problem is ?  I can't really see your exact question/Problem.  Probably it's not working, but what is not working ?

MCP Remote is only necessary for people running a networked setup, but who don't own a hardware MCP.  You can run MCP Remote on any computer and it acts like a hardware MCP, sending commands to the MCP program running on the FS computer.

[NAX]

ooops. sorry. And I who tought this was a thumbroule.